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elkian submitted:

I have a resource here: http://www.posemaniacs.com/

It has hundreds of varying poses on 3d models that can be rotated and enlarged to your heart’s content. I figured it might be an appropriate submission…?

Wow this looks awesome and seems like it could be a great resource for artists who need references. :)

Edit: gene-technology has a different view, which I want to share so people get another perspective:

i wouldn’t rely too much on posemaniacs - it’s nice enough for silhouettes, but as is expected for 3d skins, the actual structure of the musculature isn’t depicted properly

WhyLimeTime also chimes in with similar concerns:

I’m with gene-technology on this one. This is a HORRIBLE site for anatomy. It’s a great website for pose ideas, but the anatomy in this is horrible. Because it’s 3D programming, you’ll find things like limbs merging together, or things not bending how they would naturally. That muscles aren’t actually in the right places! And breasts and such will not move accordingly to a pose. Using that site is exactly the thing that will lead to the girls with bad anatomy; by using the site, you’ll only get more content for this tumblr.

Instead, try pixelovely. It’s photo reference, which is 100X better.

Okay, so this is a good reference for poses but not necessarily anatomy.  Something to keep in mind if you use it.

spacialrebel:

This is an official image of Chun-Li from the Street Fighter video game series, which I found at Escher Girls! Redraws are popular there and I’m in an art mood, so why not?

  1. She is SO bottom heavy… except, of course, for her voluptuous… -ness. The first frame is a redline of her body structure. It hurts me. She does have decent muscles for a fighter, though, so there’s that.
  2. Her head is just… wrong. So I redid that entirely. Her spine is, surprisingly, ALMOST okay, IF we put a bit more meat on her bones, and mess with her posterior a little bit… she had the beginnings of some extreme centaur spine syndrome there. I also HATED her stupid leg pose, because it made her look like she was posing for her boyfriend in a naughty sext. So I changed that too.
  3. Blacklined it with the basic body shape (no costume). You still get a bit of side-boob, which apparently wasn’t enough for the artist here. Her skull now has enough room for the brain that I suppose was assumed that all females lack, and we aren’t breaking her neck either. Defined muscles. She has room in her torso for her vital organs. No longer THRUSTING HER ASS AT US. The pose is also still essentially the same (sans the walking); she’s looking over her shoulder.
  4. Add her ridiculous costume back on. Okay, I know that skirt is almost her trademark, but I gave her some pants anyway. ._. Forgive the transgression.
  5. A friendly reminder: boobs aren’t spherical nexuses of anti-gravity dark matter! They have weight; they move; and even the most uncomfortable of bras is never going to force them into a perfectly circular, perfectly upright position!

Disclaimer: I am not an anatomy expert and am only an amateur artist/student, so I may have made my own mistakes, which you are free to point out.

The pose is less dynamic, but you were working with what you had and trying not to make it look like she’s about to fall over.  I really like what you pointed out about the breasts though.  A lot of these drawings seem to act as if breasts are metal orbs sticking out of our chest and therefore are exactly the same from any angle or position.  And even though I’ve never had a problem with Chun Li’s outfit, I think the pants are a really interesting change and don’t look out of place at all, and it’s not like Chun Li’s never fought in pants before.

lesstitsnass:

The Death of Star Sapphire, this week on Green Lantern: New Guardians! Blasted at by a villain, her spine gets severed at—

Wait, what? 

She’s not dead? B-but her back, there… Didn’t it… 

Oh. Huh. So it… Okay. Basically, there was such a need for this image to show boobs and butt at the same time that the spine was bent halfway into the ribcage (which also seemed to bend the ribcage itself). What we have here is two halves that should be independent from each other. To demonstrate that, I decided to complete the body for each half. 

Using the top half, I worked with the fact that the blast pushed at the more flexible part of her body, and yes, that does mean arching her spine like she got shoved in the kidneys. Her hips drag the thighs forward, and the lower legs dangle back, because the main dragging point (that which pulls on the rest of the body) is in the middle of her core. I also figured her hair would be blasting in the direction of the force beam thing, as it offers less resistance to it than the rest of the body. 

I have to say the correction of the body using the top half was much easier than the one using the bottom half. The reason for this is simple: the legs as drawn in the original made no sense in how they were positioned considering there’s a big blast of energy throwing the characters away, so I ended up only keeping the hips in the current position. I did bend the spine back as far as it should go, and this means the push from the chest-laser-beam targets her back upper chest, which snaps the neck back, the arms up and back as far as they can go and the legs kinda dangle back… which doesn’t work as well as an impact pose as the first one considering the blast’s origin and trajectory. If the beam were coming from further left and hit her between the shoulder blades, maybe that would work, but as it is, the first pose makes more sense. Also, its silhouette is easier to read: I had the hardest time figuring out how to place her near arm in the second pose and no model around to refer on (my husband’s just not the right body type for this kind of thing), and no matter what I did it had to overlap the body, effectively making us lose the view of the body’s action. 

As you can see, though, the original drawing was of two halves of women on the same character. 

The last drawing is to show another note on breast anatomy. Breasts are basically fat and mammary tissue on top of pectorals. The pectoral muscle attaches from the clavicle and the sternum to the top of the humerus (upper arm bone) and the deltoids overlap the pecs to attach from the clavicle to the side of the humerus.  When you raise your arms, the pecs are pulled up and stretched from the sternum, leaving the muscle gap under the arm visible, and it often looks as if the pec and deltoid are just one muscle group working together instead of two distinct muscles. Just as the pecs get spread apart and pulled up, breasts get pulled apart and up. See that last couple of drawings up there, where I point out how the breasts get pulled up. Don’t forget to think of this even if the arms are down, but pulled back: unless your character’s wearing a really tight push-up bra, her breasts will be pulled away from each other by the arms, unlike on the original picture where she’s got the breasts together despite the clear lack of bra (yet another zipper down to navel, sigh). 

Now, a last note, just because I can’t resist a comment on the male anatomy… Kyle has a reaaaaally long torso on this picture. That’s because the ribcage and the hips are too far apart. Try it, how many fingers can you fit between your floating ribs and your hip bone? Also his pecs are too long and he seems to have one thigh twice as wide as the other

But at this point, I’m nitpicking. 

Meant to reblog this a while ago, so here you go. :)  I REALLY love this breakdown and showing where the lines of action are coming from, and that there a couple pose options for where she could be.

constantstateofbliss submitted:

I don’t know if some has already shown this to you, but this is a GREAT body diversity reference, using Olympic Athletes! 

http://ninamatsumoto.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/athletic-body-diversity-reference-for-artists/

I also like how every one is posing differently, you can get a lot of personality in a single image of a human being.

I’ve seen this before but I put off putting it up and then it slipped my mind.  Thanks for reminding me of it! 

fromessex submitted:

Another Chun Li redraw
After seeing the redraw previously posted on eschergirls I wanted to try
a) Posing like an escher girl
b) redrawing
c) using photo references
Like many ladies who have tried the spine breaking poses, I found they really hurt. I also wanted to see if I could turn Chun Li’s pose into something less eye-watering whilst still keeping boobs and butt. The pose I eventually managed to photograph myself in  captures bum and some sideboob, maybe more so than the original image, whilst still in keeping with the fighter theme.
Instead of drawing from scratch, I traced the photo in order to keep it as anatomically correct as possible, I’ve included it faintly in the middle image (but only faintly, as I had to get down to my underwear in order to make the body contours fully visible).I would like to have made my redraw more toned, muscle wise.
Personally I like Chun Li’s outfit, but I always feel that the skirt is split so high, wearing underwear must be impossible so I added a pair of shorts. Now she doesn’t have to feel quite so revealing with those high-kicks. For a more dynamic image I would opt for some skirt and hair blowing in the wind, and a face.
Faces are important too.

Yeah, I think not seeing a face, and the expression that would be on the figure is a big reason a lot of the redraws don’t look as exciting as they probably would in finished form.  I like the way you’ve cut the skirt and the clenched fists. :)

fromessex submitted:

Another Chun Li redraw

After seeing the redraw previously posted on eschergirls I wanted to try

a) Posing like an escher girl

b) redrawing

c) using photo references

Like many ladies who have tried the spine breaking poses, I found they really hurt. I also wanted to see if I could turn Chun Li’s pose into something less eye-watering whilst still keeping boobs and butt. The pose I eventually managed to photograph myself in  captures bum and some sideboob, maybe more so than the original image, whilst still in keeping with the fighter theme.

Instead of drawing from scratch, I traced the photo in order to keep it as anatomically correct as possible, I’ve included it faintly in the middle image (but only faintly, as I had to get down to my underwear in order to make the body contours fully visible).I would like to have made my redraw more toned, muscle wise.

Personally I like Chun Li’s outfit, but I always feel that the skirt is split so high, wearing underwear must be impossible so I added a pair of shorts. Now she doesn’t have to feel quite so revealing with those high-kicks. For a more dynamic image I would opt for some skirt and hair blowing in the wind, and a face.

Faces are important too.

Yeah, I think not seeing a face, and the expression that would be on the figure is a big reason a lot of the redraws don’t look as exciting as they probably would in finished form.  I like the way you’ve cut the skirt and the clenched fists. :)

People keep asking me how artists SHOULD draw women, so fine, here you go.  Just don’t draw female body parts because they’re sexist okay?  Jeez, is that really so hard!?

People keep asking me how artists SHOULD draw women, so fine, here you go.  Just don’t draw female body parts because they’re sexist okay?  Jeez, is that really so hard!?

Lady Nilstria submitted:

I just had to do this one. Partly because it looks so ludicrous, but also because I could not help myself.
I can’t decide if she’s a dance hall girl about to give a performance or asking the guys with hats for a manicure. Take that away and you pretty much have a woman standing on a balcony railing. That’s boring, and I know if I did that several people would be unsatisfied, so I asked myself, “How can I show how she got there?” I chose climbing. It lent itself to a nice line.
Upon inspection, her legs are different lengths. The femur is also longer, by far, than her tibia and fibula. That’s not how it works. Her pelvis, though at least not displaying an elongated spine, does this odd tilting rotation. I do not think it either comfortable or conducive to balance.
Please ignore how badly I drew that cape. Sometimes I hate capes. >__>

Yup, as I said before, often just fixing up the anatomy of a pose ends up revealing that the pose itself was never that interesting in the first place.  I really like your alteration and how she appears to have leapt down onto the balcony. :)

Lady Nilstria submitted:

I just had to do this one. Partly because it looks so ludicrous, but also because I could not help myself.

I can’t decide if she’s a dance hall girl about to give a performance or asking the guys with hats for a manicure. Take that away and you pretty much have a woman standing on a balcony railing. That’s boring, and I know if I did that several people would be unsatisfied, so I asked myself, “How can I show how she got there?” I chose climbing. It lent itself to a nice line.

Upon inspection, her legs are different lengths. The femur is also longer, by far, than her tibia and fibula. That’s not how it works. Her pelvis, though at least not displaying an elongated spine, does this odd tilting rotation. I do not think it either comfortable or conducive to balance.

Please ignore how badly I drew that cape. Sometimes I hate capes. >__>

Yup, as I said before, often just fixing up the anatomy of a pose ends up revealing that the pose itself was never that interesting in the first place.  I really like your alteration and how she appears to have leapt down onto the balcony. :)

pariahsdream:

eschergirls:

genderqueerbookshop submitted:

I found this browsing the Star Wars tag and….
I’m pretty sure Twi’leks can’t dislocate their spines at will and I have no clue what the Sith chick is doing.

I’m really curious what this looks like if you continued their bodies beyond this panel.  What is Twi’lek girl (is that Aayla?) doing?  Where are they standing?  What does the ground look like?  Are they fighting inside a sphere?

Okay this one I had to do. This is also for my April Drawing day 3 to boot.SO!
Pic One: Figuring Out WTF is Going On

As you can see, the pose is really weird once you try to figure out how they’re standing. It’s pretty obvious that the artist didn’t crop from a larger image, they just threw the two fighters into a space that doesn’t really let them breathe.
Also- boob flounder, redhead chick isn’t even looking at Twi’lek girl, neck and shoulder WTF’s.
Pic Two: Sticking to the Source

This was me attempting to stick to the same composition/general positioning while fixing the weird anatomy. It’s not bad, serviceable even but I had one more try for something I think might be better.
Pic Three: Let’s See What We Can Do

I wanted the same feeling of the red girl bringing the force line down on the Twi’lek so I put the Twi’lek on her knees, trying for a blocking sort of positioning (note: I don’t know anything about fighting but I did have the sense to google for ‘sword fighting’ or something similar to get an idea of what is in the realm of possible if not perfect). I like my version, but of course I would, right? ;)

Excellent job!  I like what you ended up coming up with and showing us the process of how you ended up there and how you were trying to keep the spirit of the original. 

pariahsdream:

eschergirls:

genderqueerbookshop submitted:

I found this browsing the Star Wars tag and….

I’m pretty sure Twi’leks can’t dislocate their spines at will and I have no clue what the Sith chick is doing.

I’m really curious what this looks like if you continued their bodies beyond this panel.  What is Twi’lek girl (is that Aayla?) doing?  Where are they standing?  What does the ground look like?  Are they fighting inside a sphere?

Okay this one I had to do. This is also for my April Drawing day 3 to boot.SO!

Pic One: Figuring Out WTF is Going On

As you can see, the pose is really weird once you try to figure out how they’re standing. It’s pretty obvious that the artist didn’t crop from a larger image, they just threw the two fighters into a space that doesn’t really let them breathe.

Also- boob flounder, redhead chick isn’t even looking at Twi’lek girl, neck and shoulder WTF’s.

Pic Two: Sticking to the Source

This was me attempting to stick to the same composition/general positioning while fixing the weird anatomy. It’s not bad, serviceable even but I had one more try for something I think might be better.

Pic Three: Let’s See What We Can Do

I wanted the same feeling of the red girl bringing the force line down on the Twi’lek so I put the Twi’lek on her knees, trying for a blocking sort of positioning (note: I don’t know anything about fighting but I did have the sense to google for ‘sword fighting’ or something similar to get an idea of what is in the realm of possible if not perfect). I like my version, but of course I would, right? ;)

Excellent job!  I like what you ended up coming up with and showing us the process of how you ended up there and how you were trying to keep the spirit of the original. 

Higurashi Redlines and suggestions

RenegadeSaint submitted:

This is a redlined image of the Higurashi pic that broke my brain. I have also thoughtfully clothed the toddlers and added commentary.

This is a manga-styled image of two women at the beach with toddlers. The image has red, purple and blue lines on it to show how the artist could fix it.

That redline for the top right girl could be really useful for people wanting to draw survival horror.