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Float like a butterfly, Sting like a WTF!?

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authormichals:

eschergirls:

Creating secret agents using a mix of spider DNA is actually not a bad idea.

Okay this one I had to figure out myself, so I decided to trace the so called “skeleton” (pssh, like she has one).

Excuse the messy lines, but you can still see where the green equals the side of her closest to the camera and red is the bits farther away and hiding. So yeah, elongated legs and arms to be sure, but not the worst spine ever. It’s the red bits that get reeeally f-ed up. First, note where the boobs are. That’s definitely some collarboob action. I would call it neck-boob even, but as you can see: she does not have one. Seriously, there’s no indication of a neck, or even room for one, she has a floating damn head. And her shoulders are incredibly close, so perhaps she doesn’t even have collarbones.
But, let’s complete those red lines to give you a real idea of the biggest WTF of this image:

WHAT in the WORLD is wrong with her leg? First and foremost, she would have to have extra joints and hinges in there to get her foot to sit flat like that, but that’s not all that’s wrong with it. It would also have to be insanely skinny as well, because you can actually make out a bit of space juuust between her left arm and leg that indicate the entirety of her other leg is hidden, so it would have be small to be able to connect in some way to her pelvis (obviously it wouldn’t connect exactly as the red line shows). So, her right leg is phenomenally skinny in comparison to her left and not only that: it’s much much shorter, as is her right arm. 

Yup, that’s pretty much what I figured when I was looking at this. xD  Thanks for the breakdown, it’s even more clear how f-ed up she is.

authormichals:

eschergirls:

Creating secret agents using a mix of spider DNA is actually not a bad idea.

Okay this one I had to figure out myself, so I decided to trace the so called “skeleton” (pssh, like she has one).

Excuse the messy lines, but you can still see where the green equals the side of her closest to the camera and red is the bits farther away and hiding. So yeah, elongated legs and arms to be sure, but not the worst spine ever. It’s the red bits that get reeeally f-ed up. First, note where the boobs are. That’s definitely some collarboob action. I would call it neck-boob even, but as you can see: she does not have one. Seriously, there’s no indication of a neck, or even room for one, she has a floating damn head. And her shoulders are incredibly close, so perhaps she doesn’t even have collarbones.

But, let’s complete those red lines to give you a real idea of the biggest WTF of this image:

WHAT in the WORLD is wrong with her leg? First and foremost, she would have to have extra joints and hinges in there to get her foot to sit flat like that, but that’s not all that’s wrong with it. It would also have to be insanely skinny as well, because you can actually make out a bit of space juuust between her left arm and leg that indicate the entirety of her other leg is hidden, so it would have be small to be able to connect in some way to her pelvis (obviously it wouldn’t connect exactly as the red line shows). So, her right leg is phenomenally skinny in comparison to her left and not only that: it’s much much shorter, as is her right arm. 

Yup, that’s pretty much what I figured when I was looking at this. xD  Thanks for the breakdown, it’s even more clear how f-ed up she is.

lesstitsnass:

You punch like a girl, Masochist. 

Seriously, that kind of posing on a punch is pretty much only drawn on girls. You’ll likely never see a punch done this way on a man. No, a man puts his back into a punch. There’s follow-through. This girl here, she has a weak punch because her back’s going the opposite direction, and her waist is swiveled in such a way as we get to see both her butt cheeks and both her boobs at the same time. There’s also the fact that the artist chose to draw the moment the punch connects, rather than the follow-through of the punch, which makes it look like a tap on the chin rather than the impact it should be. And this is the big no-no in all “How to draw comics” books when drawing a fight scene: if you want your punch to look like it actually caused damage, draw the follow-through. 

I’m going to concentrate on the full body posing here. See the first small image? This is the current line of action for Masochist. The punch is a secondary action to the body posing. Here’s the first hint of weakness. If you look at the original, the artist drew speed lines from Masochist, trying to tell us that Masochist is running really really fast to hit good ol’ Supes. In the second one, you’ve got Superman’s line of action added in, and as you can see, the speed doesn’t work because it’s not flowing in the same direction as Maso’s line of action. Weak! 

Third drawing shows what the line of action SHOULD be on her. And how it impacts with Superman’s own line of action. This is a strong action! The full force of the body’s in there. So before I actually roughed out the drawing, I got up and mimicked a hard punch to the face, took note of my body, spine, back, hips. I took in account the fact that she was running first, so as much as we twist at the waist when punching in a standing pose, when running, the whole body turns with the punch. Then I slapped down really rough lines to get my motion in. 

In order to understand this motion better, you really need to think of what’s happening to this character before the punch actually happens. There’s a wind up, an antic (short for anticipation) of the movement: that line of action is curved back, and whips forward with the punch! There’s a moment of pulling back her fist as far as it will go to be able to bring it forward to cause the most damage possible. Since she’s running, think of her RIGHT leg hitting the ground, the whole body twists as the LEFT leg pushes off the ground and that whole velocity carries enough kinetic force as to make Superman’s head snap back. (Art fixed! Thanks Anonymous!)

But instead we get a boobs and butt swivel-waist and a tap on the chin of our hero. And speed lines that make it look as if she was zipping forward, frozen in that pose. Yeah. 

I love this breakdown because one of the knee-jerk defenses is “so, she’s punching” but the choice of HOW she’s punching is up to the artist and as you so brilliantly showed, it’s not even a really effective or realistic way to be following through on a punch either.  That’s part of the problem of a lot of the “action” poses in my blog, the women may be punching or attacking, but their motions are really limited and constrained, generally to show more sexiness, or to have them posing, and it ends up with them not looking particularly aggressive.  (In that example, Artemis’ arms are in FULL extension which means she has no more leverage to be hitting Diana with and her sword isn’t even close to hitting her, and that’s not even getting into Diana’s posture.)

In the original picture, you can tell she’s punching, but the way her body is, it looks like she’s already as far extended as she can get and so the punch doesn’t look that hard except that Superman’s reacting to it, however your punch looks WAY more powerful and also adds so much more dynamic to scene.  It’s not “Masochist is punching Superman”, it’s “WOW MASOCHIST JUST PUNCHED SUPERMAN!”

Going into what it would look like in a wind up is a great idea too.  I don’t draw that much, but I do write a lot, and when I do an action scene, I always act it out in the mirror so my descriptions are logical, and doing this for art seems very sensible too. :)


misscaustic submitted:

Hi! I did a little redrawing and tutorialing of this image when I was looking through the archives. I hope the ladies don’t mind my using their awesome photo as reference. ~Mina

Great tutorial!  And yes, drawing from real life is a great tool.  Also practice.  Lots of practice.  Sometimes, I think the reason that “how-to” books frame drawing everything as being this really really specific style is because that allows them to publish books for drawing every little thing and forces you to buy them, whereas if they talked about drawing the way you just did, there wouldn’t be much need for them.

misscaustic submitted:

Hi! I did a little redrawing and tutorialing of this image when I was looking through the archives. I hope the ladies don’t mind my using their awesome photo as reference. ~Mina

Great tutorial!  And yes, drawing from real life is a great tool.  Also practice.  Lots of practice.  Sometimes, I think the reason that “how-to” books frame drawing everything as being this really really specific style is because that allows them to publish books for drawing every little thing and forces you to buy them, whereas if they talked about drawing the way you just did, there wouldn’t be much need for them.

Bones

plateglasstrampoline submitted:

Since the clothes are making it pretty hard to guess where things are, here is a stab at it. I’m no anatomist, and a so-so artist, so like I say, it’s a guess.

Base skeleton in yellow, skull and very vague guess at rib cage and scapula in orange. I think she’s shrugging or something? So her near arm may be foreshortened? Not sure. She might be wondering what tore the back of her dress off. Kind of baffled by the pelvis. I think it’s tilting right? Maybe the high point on the left side is higher.

I think the biggest issue I have is with her neck (guesses in violet). The spine attaches at the base of the skull, and unless she’s got a long Giger alien skull under that mop, or her spine is actually curling way down and peeled itself off her rib cage, I think her neck is the most broken thing.

I do feel it must be emphasized that there is a cute ferret on that other girl’s head. (green) With a little maid hat and bow! Surely that counts for something!

Spine check.

Hope I’m submitting this right. >_>

I’m frightened even more than I was originally.  The ferret, however, is awesome!

deannambrigman:

eschergirls:

Wow… the villains blew her up, stitched her back together and dropped her from a plane to send the Avengers a message.  They aren’t f-ing around.
(That picture is the epitome of what I hate about this art.  It’s just “get a butt in there” “get a boob with a nipple in there” and who cares about the rest?)

I decided that as an effort to get better as an artist I would give my self little challenges. So I decided that I would practice by correcting some of the artwork on the great tumblr: http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/ 
I clicked on the random post button and this image of Spider-Woman came up. I can certainly say that this one has been a challenge.

I started by trying to rough in Spider-Woman’s anatomy. And I can say that this artist definitely picked a very difficult pose to try to convey. You can see where I have roughed in the volumes that this drawing had several anomalies. Her right arm didn’t appear to have a bicep portion and her legs didn’t really match up with her torso. Also her dangling breast really seemed out of place.

I went through several sketches before getting to this pose. I tried to match up her leg placements and I realized that the original torso did not match up with the rest of the body so I had to draw it in differently. I also moved both of her arms so they seemed to fit on her body a bit better. I felt that you would not be able to see her breasts from this position so I did not try to fit them in.
I think it is more accurate than the original pose but I am still not 100 percent confident with the results. I can say this pose was a bit frustrating to depict and respect the original artist for even attempting it.

Really good attempt in trying to sort out and fix this pose!  It’s one of the biggest jumbles of anatomy I’ve seen and you made it make some sense!

deannambrigman:

eschergirls:

Wow… the villains blew her up, stitched her back together and dropped her from a plane to send the Avengers a message.  They aren’t f-ing around.

(That picture is the epitome of what I hate about this art.  It’s just “get a butt in there” “get a boob with a nipple in there” and who cares about the rest?)

I decided that as an effort to get better as an artist I would give my self little challenges. So I decided that I would practice by correcting some of the artwork on the great tumblr: http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/ 

I clicked on the random post button and this image of Spider-Woman came up. I can certainly say that this one has been a challenge.

I started by trying to rough in Spider-Woman’s anatomy. And I can say that this artist definitely picked a very difficult pose to try to convey. You can see where I have roughed in the volumes that this drawing had several anomalies. Her right arm didn’t appear to have a bicep portion and her legs didn’t really match up with her torso. Also her dangling breast really seemed out of place.

I went through several sketches before getting to this pose. I tried to match up her leg placements and I realized that the original torso did not match up with the rest of the body so I had to draw it in differently. I also moved both of her arms so they seemed to fit on her body a bit better. I felt that you would not be able to see her breasts from this position so I did not try to fit them in.

I think it is more accurate than the original pose but I am still not 100 percent confident with the results. I can say this pose was a bit frustrating to depict and respect the original artist for even attempting it.

Really good attempt in trying to sort out and fix this pose!  It’s one of the biggest jumbles of anatomy I’ve seen and you made it make some sense!

Emma Frost: An attempt

lyanth submitted:

So I’ve been following you for a bit, and you are so awesome! Anyways, I offer up a redraw I did of this, erm, interestingly posed Emma Frost:

We’ve got Butts and Boobs, probably a broken spine, and mismatched leg-lengths (if her hips are tilted, her stockings wouldn’t line up). To work!

I started by seeing what proper anatomy she does have. Her shoulders and collarbones are pretty reasonable, though her hips, spine, and fingers worry me. Also, does anyone lay like that, really? No? Okay, I can think of something similar. I kept key parts of the pose, like her hands and clothes, but adjusted her boobs and hips to make it more reasonable. I’m not the best artist, but I find the pose much more attractive and physically possible with the redraw.

While I know I probably didn’t get the anatomy completely correct, I think the squished boob makes up for it.

I don’t think you got the anatomy exactly correct either, but you’re not a professional, and I like the pose you chose and attempted.   Also, you actually get that breasts squish!  :)

spacialrebel:

This is an official image of Chun-Li from the Street Fighter video game series, which I found at Escher Girls! Redraws are popular there and I’m in an art mood, so why not?

  1. She is SO bottom heavy… except, of course, for her voluptuous… -ness. The first frame is a redline of her body structure. It hurts me. She does have decent muscles for a fighter, though, so there’s that.
  2. Her head is just… wrong. So I redid that entirely. Her spine is, surprisingly, ALMOST okay, IF we put a bit more meat on her bones, and mess with her posterior a little bit… she had the beginnings of some extreme centaur spine syndrome there. I also HATED her stupid leg pose, because it made her look like she was posing for her boyfriend in a naughty sext. So I changed that too.
  3. Blacklined it with the basic body shape (no costume). You still get a bit of side-boob, which apparently wasn’t enough for the artist here. Her skull now has enough room for the brain that I suppose was assumed that all females lack, and we aren’t breaking her neck either. Defined muscles. She has room in her torso for her vital organs. No longer THRUSTING HER ASS AT US. The pose is also still essentially the same (sans the walking); she’s looking over her shoulder.
  4. Add her ridiculous costume back on. Okay, I know that skirt is almost her trademark, but I gave her some pants anyway. ._. Forgive the transgression.
  5. A friendly reminder: boobs aren’t spherical nexuses of anti-gravity dark matter! They have weight; they move; and even the most uncomfortable of bras is never going to force them into a perfectly circular, perfectly upright position!

Disclaimer: I am not an anatomy expert and am only an amateur artist/student, so I may have made my own mistakes, which you are free to point out.

The pose is less dynamic, but you were working with what you had and trying not to make it look like she’s about to fall over.  I really like what you pointed out about the breasts though.  A lot of these drawings seem to act as if breasts are metal orbs sticking out of our chest and therefore are exactly the same from any angle or position.  And even though I’ve never had a problem with Chun Li’s outfit, I think the pants are a really interesting change and don’t look out of place at all, and it’s not like Chun Li’s never fought in pants before.

thedreadvampy:

eschergirls:

elkian submitted:

This beauty has been at the top of the mspa site for a while now, and it gets more confusing every time I look.
I think I got the proper tags…

That’s probably the least of a female character I’ve needed to see to realize she’s broken.

No, no.
You see, it’s really a girl lying on a beach, and another girl sitting in front of her. See? SEE? I DID A PICTURE inmspaintwithamouse SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON OUT OF THE FRAME AND REGRET YOUR FOLLY

…ok so I still couldn’t figure out what the blue girl is doing since that butt has NO LEGS ATTACHED so maybe she’s a little bit broken. Or just a serious amputee who doesn’t even have stumps.

I’m so amused how you need at least two women to explain this. xD

thedreadvampy:

eschergirls:

elkian submitted:

This beauty has been at the top of the mspa site for a while now, and it gets more confusing every time I look.

I think I got the proper tags…

That’s probably the least of a female character I’ve needed to see to realize she’s broken.

No, no.

You see, it’s really a girl lying on a beach, and another girl sitting in front of her. See? SEE? I DID A PICTURE inmspaintwithamouse SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON OUT OF THE FRAME AND REGRET YOUR FOLLY

…ok so I still couldn’t figure out what the blue girl is doing since that butt has NO LEGS ATTACHED so maybe she’s a little bit broken. Or just a serious amputee who doesn’t even have stumps.

I’m so amused how you need at least two women to explain this. xD

lesstitsnass:

The Death of Star Sapphire, this week on Green Lantern: New Guardians! Blasted at by a villain, her spine gets severed at—

Wait, what? 

She’s not dead? B-but her back, there… Didn’t it… 

Oh. Huh. So it… Okay. Basically, there was such a need for this image to show boobs and butt at the same time that the spine was bent halfway into the ribcage (which also seemed to bend the ribcage itself). What we have here is two halves that should be independent from each other. To demonstrate that, I decided to complete the body for each half. 

Using the top half, I worked with the fact that the blast pushed at the more flexible part of her body, and yes, that does mean arching her spine like she got shoved in the kidneys. Her hips drag the thighs forward, and the lower legs dangle back, because the main dragging point (that which pulls on the rest of the body) is in the middle of her core. I also figured her hair would be blasting in the direction of the force beam thing, as it offers less resistance to it than the rest of the body. 

I have to say the correction of the body using the top half was much easier than the one using the bottom half. The reason for this is simple: the legs as drawn in the original made no sense in how they were positioned considering there’s a big blast of energy throwing the characters away, so I ended up only keeping the hips in the current position. I did bend the spine back as far as it should go, and this means the push from the chest-laser-beam targets her back upper chest, which snaps the neck back, the arms up and back as far as they can go and the legs kinda dangle back… which doesn’t work as well as an impact pose as the first one considering the blast’s origin and trajectory. If the beam were coming from further left and hit her between the shoulder blades, maybe that would work, but as it is, the first pose makes more sense. Also, its silhouette is easier to read: I had the hardest time figuring out how to place her near arm in the second pose and no model around to refer on (my husband’s just not the right body type for this kind of thing), and no matter what I did it had to overlap the body, effectively making us lose the view of the body’s action. 

As you can see, though, the original drawing was of two halves of women on the same character. 

The last drawing is to show another note on breast anatomy. Breasts are basically fat and mammary tissue on top of pectorals. The pectoral muscle attaches from the clavicle and the sternum to the top of the humerus (upper arm bone) and the deltoids overlap the pecs to attach from the clavicle to the side of the humerus.  When you raise your arms, the pecs are pulled up and stretched from the sternum, leaving the muscle gap under the arm visible, and it often looks as if the pec and deltoid are just one muscle group working together instead of two distinct muscles. Just as the pecs get spread apart and pulled up, breasts get pulled apart and up. See that last couple of drawings up there, where I point out how the breasts get pulled up. Don’t forget to think of this even if the arms are down, but pulled back: unless your character’s wearing a really tight push-up bra, her breasts will be pulled away from each other by the arms, unlike on the original picture where she’s got the breasts together despite the clear lack of bra (yet another zipper down to navel, sigh). 

Now, a last note, just because I can’t resist a comment on the male anatomy… Kyle has a reaaaaally long torso on this picture. That’s because the ribcage and the hips are too far apart. Try it, how many fingers can you fit between your floating ribs and your hip bone? Also his pecs are too long and he seems to have one thigh twice as wide as the other

But at this point, I’m nitpicking. 

Meant to reblog this a while ago, so here you go. :)  I REALLY love this breakdown and showing where the lines of action are coming from, and that there a couple pose options for where she could be.